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PR.com (Allison
Kugel): I have to get your take on an article that was just posted
this morning. The article states, “WikiLeaks founder demands
Obama’s resignation over UN Espionage.” Julian Assange is
inferring that President Obama is solely to blame for our American
diplomats apparently doing double duty as spies. What do you think
about that?
Eliot Spitzer: Whatever
one thinks of the benefits to society in the long run of WikiLeaks’
documents being out there, and obviously many people have
different views of [Julian] Assange, for him to demand the
President’s resignation is kind of silly and frivolous on its
face. I think the larger conversation is, what have we learned
from these documents? How do they reflect on U.S. diplomacy, and
what does it mean in the longer term in terms of our ability to
conduct diplomacy within the appropriate code of silence, but also
subject to the appropriate public scrutiny.
PR.com: Do you
think that our rapidly advancing information age and the power of
the Internet is going to increasingly put our national security
and well being at risk, especially now with this new precedent set
by WikiLeaks?
Eliot Spitzer: It cuts
both ways. There are elements like these leaks which would
obviously make diplomacy much more difficult. But the long run
value of the openness and transparency to a democracy is also
enormous. It is technology such as the Internet which brings
pressure to bear on totalitarian regimes or autocratic regimes to
become democratic in nature. China is struggling with this right
now, desperately trying to control its population’s access to
information, and the Internet is what permits us as a democratic
society to say to the citizens of China, “Look what you don’t
know and look what you should know.” So technology
changes many things. It makes diplomacy more difficult, but it
also has led to the spread of democracy over the last hundred
years; I don’t mean just the Internet, obviously, but the printing
press, the fax machine, all of these things have changed the
world. So I think [some of it] has been enormously beneficial to
us as a democratic society.
PR.com: Do you
view Julian Assange as a criminal, and the Swiss company that is
currently hosting his website as aiding and abetting a fugitive of
justice, or is he someone who is expressing his First Amendment
rights and his rights to use the Internet to share relevant
information?
Eliot Spitzer: I’m going
to defer to Eric Holder and the Department of Justice to make that
decision at this point. I don’t know enough about where he got the
information, how he got it or from whom to determine whether or
not he can or should be charged. Those are fact-based decisions
that need to be made from specific information which I certainly
have not seen, and frankly a lot of people are expressing views
that aren’t yet founded in those facts sufficiently. I’m going to
wait to see what the Justice Department tells us. Then we’ll
certainly have a chance to weigh in on it. What we do know is what
is in the documents, and that’s why we’ve been talking about that
a fair bit (referring to his nightly round table discussion
program on CNN, “Parker Spitzer”). I think they’ve been a
mixed bag. There is a mixed storyline which has shown U.S.
diplomacy to be effective, smart, wise, struggling with many
difficult, probably impossible situations but doing a very good
job under the circumstances.
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